Marshal lese: ~: Do you base these figures on what has happened in the past? Those are based upon what has happened in the past and upon experiments, studies that have been done with animals and examinations of people. Bair: ~: Not on past experience in the Marshall Islands. No, not Marshall Islands experience. Plarshallese: So I would think then that these don’t really apply to the Marshalls, these figures, then, because why would you need to go to a laboratory to get information like that? Why didn’t you come and actually visit the Marshalls, and take your data from the Marshalls, and base these figures that apply to us on our actual experience? ~: These numbers represent the best scientific estimate we can make of the consequence of radiation, what contribution to make, to deaths from cancer in the Marshalls. radiation may be expected We have no way of identifying a specific death and saying that is due to radiation. But the world’s experience at this time would indicate that with these radiation levels, whatever the number of cancer incidence is in the Marshalls would be increased by this much. We don’t know what the incidence of cancer is in the Marshalls or has been because there are not sufficient historical records. We do know that, worldwide, of all the people that died in a ye~r, of every 6 people that died, 1 of them probably died of cancer. Marshallese: We feel that the DOE vessel makes regular trips to these atolls and so seeing that that would be a perfect opportunity to gather information from these atolls and base your information then on data you gathered on site in our area and, (implied), you wouldn’t have to resort to worldwide figures. ~: Well, certainly as the DOE vessel visits the atolls of the Marshalls we gather as much information as we can. 7 But in order to make judgments of