Bair: We don’t have the information to put in the report like that. Bair: And also it was not the subject of this report. This report is to deal only with the amount of radiation in the atolls of the Marshall Islands now and the possible health effects in the future. Marshallese: We are talking about the future, whenever we speak about children being born we are thinking about the future generations, those that are going to be born. So it seems like this information is pretty pertinent and that kind of data probably should have been included in this. Bair: Well we have addressed that in this book for the future in terms of the amount of radiation that the people will be exposed to if they live on the islands. We don’t feel that the radiation levels on any of the islands in the Marshall Islands where people are living now is high enough that would cause any increase or any detectable increase in birth defects in the future. Marshallese: I appreciate your answer but I feel that there are doctors that we can summon who would refute this and would say in the coming years there will be a great, a high increase number of children born with defects. Bair: There are no data on any population in the world that has been exposed to radiation that shows an increase in birth defects. The survivors of the bombs, of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan have been studied for many years and there is no evidence of any birth defects in these people. No genetic effects have been observed. The only information that scientists have about birth defects comes from animal experiments. There are no human data that allows us to predict how many birth defects will occur as a result of parents receiving radiation. Buck: You say that the human data has been studied and has not been determined. (They are laughing about the rats or the rodents. ) 16