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October 28, 1958
5:50 p.m,
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
Participants:
The Secretary of State
Thomas E. Murray
The Secretary said he was glad that Mr. Murray would
be going to the Geneva conference on nuclear testing.
He
said he wes counting on Mr. Murray's cooperation, stressing
that we could not afford a show of division in these very
delicate negotiations.
He noted thet they would now be made
all the more difficult by the fact that the Soviets appeared
to be teking @ new look at their position.
Mr. Murrsy assured the Secretary of his cooperetion.
said he would not
"speak out" when he disagreed,
but would
He
exoress his viewpoint privately to Senator Gore.
He said he
head long fevored stopping the testing of lerge weapons, but
thought it essential to continue making small yield tests.
He
thought we could satisfy everyone's needs, the scientists and
military together, by underground tests.
The Secretery pointed out thet we needed not only weapons
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but public good will and the support of our allies as well.
He thought therefore that the main question would be one of
tactics at the Geneva conference to insure that the blame for
any breakdown was laid to the Soviets.
We should not ourselves
appear militaristic.
The Secretary said that if we could work
it out without jeopardy to our forelgn relations, he would
favor,underground testing.
He said he did not think the con-
ference would be a success; that the Soviets would continue
testing and therefore we would then resume our own testing.
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