4at Kr A brief discussion of Federal Standards followed with comparison of Woccupational standards’, etc. yt. 2. Dr. Brill noted that many people in the U,S. accept a much higher rate of exposure in certain jobs, etc., than the Federal standards. Dr. Ogle stated that U.S. standards were not intended to apply to an individual or to a smal} group. Dr. Bender stressed that the Federal Radiation Guides are not “rules” but simply guidelines that set arbitrary levels. Dr. Bender also stressed that the “guidelines” do not take into consideration doses people receive from medical x-rays, etc. This is estimated to be about &G milirem a year. If you add this to an average of 100 normal (direct) rad radiation, an individual in the U.S. regularly receives about 180 R a year. This is not much different than the 253 people would receive en Engebi. Dr. Bender also said that the normal dose in the Marshalls (direct) is about 50 milirem per year. Engebi himself. He would have no hesitation about living on Dr. Ogle stated that in his opinion the real issue is emotional and political. In his opinion, there are no physical radiation hazards that can be measured at Engebi, and probably none at al} exist there. Comparison with Bikini situation High Commissioner Winkel asked how the “Engebi" situation compared to the Bikini situation 1. Dr. Brill, after stating that he had not investigated the Bikini situation in any depth, believed that the Bikini situation clearly was GF& different order of magnitude. Dr. Bender concurred. Both, though, would defer to analysis of more detatled data on Bikini. Dr, Ogle was of the opinion (again qualified by stating that he had not examined the Bikini data} tht there was appreciably more fallout at Bikini and the situation might be significantly different there. SUMMARY In short, these three experts appeared to be saying that there is no “danger” at present or in the "future” at Engebi and that no 111 effects would result if the people were allowed to return to live there.