CONFIDENTIAL Cabinet Meeting, May 12, 1960 - page 4 other government officials just as OCDM stands prepared to accom modate therm, Mr. Gates replied that the problem had been taken under st hdy immediately in his Department. WN Radiation Protection Guidance (CP 60-109) - In Dr, Flemming's absence, Dr. Kistiakowsky summarized the Cabinet paper, drawin particular attention to the presumption that any radiation at all has some effect on living tissue, either somatic or genetic. The Coundi felt it had made this assumption necessarily in the absence of any experimentation proving there would be no effect from small doses Dr. Kistiakowsky noted that the new term ''radiation protection gui would serve as a replacement for ‘maximum permissible exposure Dr. Kistiakowsky referred to the imminence of hearings by the Coq gressional Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, and the desirability of having this paper approved and published prior to the hearings, affirmed his own concurrence in the reco:inmendations. Mr. McConestated that the AEC fully concurs in the paper and the desirability of early publication. He said the practices of the Commission are consistent with the recommendations. Mr. McCone then put additional emphasis on the statement on page which denied, under present knowledge, the existence of a thresho below which radiation would not have harmful effects. This and th differentiation between atomic industrial workers and the populatioy as a whole could become points of controversy, he thought. The President ascertained that measurements of radiation for the purposes of this guide began from zero and that zero included natural radiation from the atmosphere and such radiation as an individual might receive from medical treatment. Mr. McCone compared this entire problem with that of motor vehidles and highways, where any speed at all could be dangerous, but offic als as a practical matter must determine what are ''safe"' speeds. Mr. McCone then discussed certain technical aspects of AEC oper 10nS as pertains to radiation. He noted that the Commission did not kno Wy of any instance in which there would be a need for making use of the option set forth in recommendation #7, but that it had been included in case of future need, Dr. Kistiakowsky stated that Sec. Flemming thoroughlyaccepted these recommendations. Mr. Rogers inquired if it would be possible to state that the effect of a very small dose of radiation would not necessarily be harmful, for the existing language would almost inevitably be taken out of context and built into great controversy. This gave rise to an extensive discussion in which Messrs. Gates, Scribner, CONFIDENTIAL Mueller and Cy m~eo tare ‘“fe F EO, 12.55, Sec, VICfey py7 7R pate -

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