26 RADIATION STANDARDS, INCLUDING FALLOUT Representative Barres. Do you have any figures on waste products? Dr. Tayztor. I don’t think the figures are very reliable on that. But certainly the figure is very small at the present time. The fourth category is fallout from weapons testing. Fallout is an unfortunate byproduct of some weapons testing programs. It can be eliminated or reduced only by the sacrifice of information needed for our national defense and security. Only in the wisdom of our national leaders can the gain and risk be compared and the general public is in no position to debate this point. As long as we must learn to live in a world along with nuclear weapons we must chalk up one plus for fallout; its analysis gives us much valuable information about the weapons tested by other nations. It is hardly worth testing just for that purpose, I might remark. At its peak levels, fallout has contributed less than 1.5 percent of our average per capita doset'(an average of 2 millirems per year’). The fifth category is fallout from nuclear warfare. This could well contribute many thousands of times the dose of radiation that man is nowliving with. There is no basis for comparison betweenitseffects and those from present exposurelevels. Representative Price. Thank you very much, Dr. Taylor. Dr. Taylor, were you implying on page 1 that nuclear testing and waste disposal are suspect in the harm to lower forms of animal life and damageto our ecology ? Dr. Taytor. The radiation from nuclear operations can be hazardous to lower forms of animal life and to our ecology. Representative Price. Was this what you were thinking of ? Dr. Tarzor. Yes, sir. Representative Price. What are the factors that you state that the part played by social and economic factors and so forth, on page 1, imply ? Dr. Tayzor. Sir, we set our radiation protection levels on the basis of some limited experience with man, some experience with animals, some biological experience, and soon. We are forced to make assumptions about the linearity of radiation effects or that radiation dosages can accumulate under certain conditions. These are unproven facts. We have not yet been able to establish any causative relationship between industrial exposures and injury to man, Therefore, we are of necessity working somewhat in the dark in this whole question of radiation protection standards. As long as this is the situation we have to use judgment factors as to what kind of radiation levels we are willing to work with. Our judgement factors are going to be influenced by public necessity, economic necessity, medical necessity, and so on. Representative Prick. Mr. Ramey has a question at this point. Mr. Ramey. When you are talking of social and economic factors, do you mean also this question of the statistical concept of risk? You mentioned these standards started out by way of necessity, such as radiation workers and the celebrated cases of licking the brushes by radium workers, and so on, where you actually found physical damage as a result of radiation. Now we are taking our standard to where they are applying to whole populations and where you can’t observe or discover any damagingeffects. +See supplementary testimony at end of Dr. Taylor’s testimony, p. 30. # Editor’s note: This an annual genetic dose averaged over a period of 30 years. 1aSSRSROBRGSESC2essaeccogilaati

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