272 To are ry a are being handled now, FS DR. SHILLING: ZI would think that legally we could not do it at all -- well, 1 may be wrong on thie but I just don't think we can pay this portal-to-portal pay under our present law becauce we have these clear=- ances and all that sort of thing. Z think 4t would have to go before AIBS or NSF or something like that, DR. WARREN: I would like to re= 4nforce very much what Doctor Glagghas said and els0 to look beyond the biologist as such, ZI think thatthe National Educational Association, they ought to be brought fully into the picture quite early also, into the general planning, For information I gather that we still have the handicap of the clearance requirements on fellowships and scholare ships. DR. DUNHAM: DR. WARREN: Yes? Yes, so that where we

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