Meeting #1565, 3 November 59: For the first time in the Commission meetings that I have seen, one of the proposed seismic improvement shots was specifically discussed, a proposed underground nuclear Lollipop, detonation in granite, had been recommended by the Berkner panel as one which would be valuable in acquiring new seismic data, Starbird brought this up for review since there were now proposed additional projects related to gathering data on this shot. "Mr. Graham inquired whether any instrumentation proposed for the projects would have to be concealed from Soviet representatives if the test were conducted under international sponsorship, Starbird replied he knew of no instrumentation which could not be examined by Soviet scientists. Mr, Williams expressed the belief that several of the proposed projects could not be defended solely on the basis of seismic detection of underground nuclear explosions, He said they appeared to aim more at the development of weapons testing techniques and non-military uses of nuclear explosions, He Senta specifically the programs of interest to the CIA as being extraneous to the central purpose of the shot, and said he was not convinced that the $248,000 requested for the projects in question was justified. " The Commission then approved, subject to Mr. Williams' concurrence, the addition of these AEC-~DASA sponsored programs , and noted that data collected on the event would be publicly released, Meeting #1571, 24 November 1959: Here is an item at the end of these minutes: that the Sovict Union had accepted the U.S. ''Mr. Luedecke announced compro nise terms of reference at the Geneva Conference, and there was now an agreement to hold 102

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