384 DASA 2019-2 reduce the GNP and pupulation to something bke in the 1940's. Is that a reasonable approximation? AYRES: Phe way | Jook at it, BUSTAD AYRES: Yes, in the 1940's, onthe 1u40's, That's the way it appears tome, be back as far as L929, REISE NBUD DE BOERR [ Laughter] BISENBUD. [t's unlikely we would [would say. Lobject most strenuously to this conclusion, do, too, EP would say 1&49, which 2s much better! T would yo even further back than that. [ don't think [ would go to L400 but [ might po to about 1650 or 1700, TAYLOR You would stay in 1967, There are certain things that you know howto do now that you didn't know in 1940, drastically reduced level of productivity. but with some How you translate this back in time is meaninuless, CONARD- Ona per capita basis” TAYLOR: [think that's meaningless, too, EISENBUD Yes. Fer capita is an industrial society is very dif- ferent than per capita in an agrarian society. TAYLOR: Exactly, We might become an ayrarian society in which we tnivht ail be happier; I don't know, EISENBUD: [think a hell of a lot depends on this point that Staff made. If it's true, for example, that plants pet rusty as quickly as he indicated..... AYRES [thought there was sorne misconception. I didn't think he was answering the same guestion vou asked, His point was that after a few days you would have to take the machinery apart and make sure the bearinys are oilec, and so on, FISENBUD: Yes,