MR. STANWOOD was next introduced by DR. DUNHAM to discuss facilities for long-term animal experiments. MR. STANWOOD said there had been some difficulty in obtaining legislation and this had delayed some of the plans for expanding facilities. DR. WARREN stated that he believed that there should be ANIMAL much more in the construction budget for the reason that FACILITIES universities throughout the country were faced with a — very rapidly increasing population to serve, and that normal demands would mean that some research space would probably be used for classroom laboratories. For this reason research support for colleges and universities would have to be increased in greater proportion than would normally be required. DR. BURNETT said that for the same reason it would probably be found that $10,000 per man year would not be a realistic figure in the future and that universities would not be able to participate in the research program under these conditions. DR. WARREN stated that a very strong case should be made to keep the research program going. DR. CANTRIL asked if continuing investigation of inert uranium was productive and DR. ELY replied that it was a five-year program with dogs and essentially a radiological program. There had not been much return on the first two years of work. DR. WARREN asked if there was anything new in the mercury investigation. DR. DUNHAM said that a literature search had been started at Rochester and that the problem was important because of the large operation at Oak Ridge involving the use of mercury which present a difficult problem. DR. BRUNER stated that the fans and blowers necessary to keep the air concentration down to acceptable level resulted in objectionable noise levels at the Oak Ridge Plant. Item 12. RESEARCH PLANNING (continued ) CANCER PROGRAM DR. CANTRIL expressed satisfaction with the trend towards the shifting emphasis in the case of teletherapy. It had initially been developed by the AEC but had now been taken over by other agencies or private sources. He also spoke of Dr. Hempelmann's report of leukemia centers in upstate New York. Item 13. INSTRUMENTATION AND DOSIMETRY - DR. DUNHAM said that the Appropriations Committee had not looked with favor on the small amount of the budget devoted to dosimetry and instrumentation. MR. JOHNSTON expressed the opinion that there was less need now for supporting instrumentation development because it had become 8 consumer product. MR. MARINELLI asked if there were any film study contracts in effect and MR. JOHNSTON replied that there was work going on at UCLA relating to fallout films where the film is used to attempt te—-eetempt to assess the beta hazards from fallout. MR. MARINELLI mentioned previous work done by Ansco with scintillators and film and that there were much better scintillators available now. ~ 15 -

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