10 So far, most of the committees which have been exempted from the enplication of these rules have been comrittees which have either etatutory status or which ere apvointed by the President, rupt. MR, BERMANS Howerd, if I oay intere This does not do rcnything for you, These ere the conflicts of interests that did mot exict before, No great problem of the anti« trust but conflict of interest which does not chenge at all, So MR, ERO: Except insofer as the effort within the A.E.C. end the governnent to make such things as finenelal interests aprPlicnble, the recommendations within the A.F.C, have been to excluie from ernlication the G.A.C, and the Kilitsery Lisiscon Cennittee, ¢o in each internal effort to adiress there rules, not laws, rules to comritteec, statutory committers, Precidentinl epnointees hzve been recommended for exclucion, MRe BERMANS «Sure, it may get you out of the Administrative problem, but you still heave the substantive conflicts, MR. BROWN: This is co, I think alco that it will probably inorease the effeotiveness Vy ee it, nf Ne ys “pot pRe {é