SESSION IIB DISCUSSION 691 SHLEIEN: The reason I mention this is that we have found 2°*Ra concentrations in precipitation which very likely originated from a ground source. GATZ: The occurrence of *“Ra in rain is very strong evidence that resuspended particulate matter from the earth’s surface gets into the rain. If we were able to obtain the temporal variation of 7*°Ra in rain, we would have additional evidence pertaining to the question of where the scavenged material enters the storm. HUFF: Dr. Kruger, I’m surprised by your finding that there is a direct relation between the rainout concentration and the rainfall in- tensity. Did you have a large number of cases, and did this relation hold for all storms ? KRUGER: The *Sr concentration as a function of rainfall intensity is a difficult relation to establish for convective showers in that, instead of just gross measurements, the relation should be examined in detail under the same storm conditions. On a gross basis, for our 14 convective showers, increased "Sr concentrations occurred with decreasing precipitation rates in about 50% of the cases. Many of these increased concentrations occurred in the first cells passing over the site, and the increase could be ascribed to evaporation effects below the clouds. For later cells with more humid lower layers, most of the §’Sr concentration curves followed the precipitationrate curve quite well. Thus in a single storm we could observean inverse relation during the initial and the final period and a direct relation in between where two or more radar tops could be identified. SAUCIER: You presented rather great detail for the radar storm analyses. Do you have similar detail for radioactivity measurements? For instance, what is the time duration of your rain samples? KRUGER: In general, we do. The time duration of rain samples are generally taken as the minimum time to collect sufficient volume of water such that %Sr concentrations can be determined with a pre- cision of better than +5%. The time, therefore, varies not only with the precipitation rate but also with the general levels of nuclear debris in the atmosphere. In 1962 and 1963, when the nuclear-debris levels were reasonably high, we were able to measure *’Sr in samples of less than 0.1 liter. Thus, generally, we could limit our time span to meteorologically interesting time periods of half hours or less for large-scale systems and to minutes for convective showers. For some convective showers, we were able to obtain half-minute samples during intense periods. Our radar cross sections usually show the Sr concentration and the precipitation-rate data sample by sample. LIN

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