his point across that at the moment "nothing would be worked out except general and complete disarmerment and then of course there would be no nuclear -weapons to test." In discussion later on amosngst the three of them, Tsarap kin reiterated his points and kept noting the plans of the militerists in the Western Countires to destroy the Soviet Union and its people with nuclea r warfare and noting that this did not have to do with the sincere efforts of the nego€iators but had to do only with the militarists. Here is a 4 Dec. 61 memo from Miller to Reeves documented a 30 Nov. meeting a at ALO of key AEC Dominic personnel, including Ogle, and since this secret PR document with many details of the organization and set-up for the overseas open sea plan are contained herein, I will copy it in its entirety for our files. Here is a4 Dec. 1961 memorandum for Johnson from Starbird which is, I believe, the first progress report of JIF-8. Starbird states that JTF-8 is developing a J concept of operations for an open seas initially with later phases to be conducted in the open seas or at Christmas Island should it become available. Various proposals from the services for the high altitude events are being studied by his staff with the booster reliability, system availability, and data collection requirements being addressed. Johnston Island is considered to be the location for these events-unless the Navy proposal for firing from a ship is adopted. The JTF position on the high altitude testing will be forwarded to the Chief of DASA by 6 Dec. The Task Force is also studying the location of and execution of the LASL surface tests in the Pacific. As for manning, the 51 of the 69 persons required have reported and the initial increment should be filled by 15 Dec. S$ - 10 December Ogle, Shook (AFSIC}, Ryan (H & N), and British went to Christmas Island to investigate possibilities as test base. 6 a.

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