és A 15 Dec. message from DASA to the Air Force and the N avy notes that the —~ McMillan panel has been studying the Fishbowl effects program and made a strong recommendation for exposing a full scal e ICBM re-entry vehicle or vehicles on the™ B Starfish event to observe missile vuln erability. The RV would be instrume nted to measure neutron heating and x-ra y effects and would be recoverable. The RV Perm would be rendered inert. Gf Here is a 15 Dec. letter from Cen. Booth to Headquarters Air Force info He 9 nmbeogee rming them of the JTF-8 decision to use the Thor for Fishbowl. Among the details of ™ JE tests to be performed, it is stated that 3 pods will be deployed from each missile for each test and that for the Blue gill event, a propelled pod should be provided on the nose of the missile. DASA has previously funded for the desi gn and test of such a pod with Chrysler as part of Willow planning. It is requested that the Air Force consider this particul ar design even though it was desi gned for the Redstone system. A.15 Dec. TWX from Foster to Betts contains the planned LRL underground test program for Dec. 61 through Aug. 62 and includes shots. On 15 Dec. Bradbury sent a rather lengthy TWX to Gen. Betts on the subject of HOD andAEC responsibilities as brought up by the recent DDR&E TWX to Betts and the question of the so called effects test of the 50 X1Y2 device. Bradbury makes a strong argument for the misunderstanding DOD seems to have of just what it is that the AEC has been responsible for in weapons testing for years and points out that it was the responsibility of the AEC to develop weapons and make appropriate diagnostic*experimental measurements towards this objective and in addition, to provide by calculation or direct measurement for the using agency the definitive information regarding the fundamental output of those bombs. This, of course, specifically includes the spectrum measurements in such areas as x-ray and neutron outputs, which is often required by the DOD. He goes into some detail on what he feels is the proper definition of the weapons effects responsibility which the DOD does in fact have, and makes the following statements: ‘We believe the AEC should understand these words to mean the effects which are caused by the use of nuclear weapons on systems or things of DOD interest, for example structures, communication, etc. The effects of nuclear weapons on nuclear weapons are an AEC responsibility as is the determination of the actual eminations coming out of the detonating nuclear system. The latter should not be considered to be a "weapon effect.'' It is also important that the AEC ascertain whatever it canabout the phenomena associated with nuclear explosions whether of immediate interest to the DOD or not." Dr. Bradbury also discusses the theoretical role of DASA as a collection and sorting agency for the various services within the DOD and feels that the AEC should have no objection to them acting as such but sort of wistfully wishes that they in fact could act as such instead of having the various contractors and services come directly to the AEC and the labs in so many cases, /7

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