(Buck: And that plane flight would be anywhere not just because it was flying in Marshallese air?) (Ray: That's right. Marshallese: Any plane flight.) Well, it is unfortunate that you had to receive greater radiation because of a trip here, to meet with us, on the other hand we know that you made the trip because of something that your government did in our islands and you came to make this explanation to us and meet with us and we are grateful for your concern and willingness to accept that increased radiation as a result of the trip. I see a difference in your example, though, because this is something that by choice you have done and in a sense we're not sure what our choice is because we would rather have not had our islands contaminated in this way. And yet they are by people other than ourselves, by a choice that was not ours, and so we are faced with this condition. And so I'm just concerned now about our people and this choice is forced upon us. You did it of your own free will. But with us it is a forced choice now that we have to make, or situation we have to deal with. And I think that is a bit different but we understand your explanation. Ray: Well, we too feel that it is most unfortunate that Rongelap was contaminated. accident. That was not by our own free will, it was as a result of an What we are talking about here is I think the choices that now exist and the Senator was asking, "Is it appropriate to tell people they must not go to the northern islands or is it appropriate to say they may, freely?" Well it is somewhere in between and there are..., that's the value judgment that I wanted to address. Robison: The practice throughout the world in radiation protection is that even though 500 mrem is an acceptable level that governments work with, if there is any practical way to stay below that level even though they say that's a level you can, you know, go up to and around, if there is any practical way to stay below that, they do it. And what we are saying here pot ARCHIVES 45