Ekpap: Well what I'm really interested in is the people. to make sure they don't expose themselves too much. Most of the time they are on the island. bird's eggs, and all that. Ray: Yes. I don't know how We are away from them. They go out there fishing, collecting Is it safe for them to pick coconuts? Now pandanus and breadfruit no, and as people are established there, if pandanus and breadfruit are grown on those islands that are not now released for residency we'll have to suggest that they not use those. But the coconuts are alright. The coconut crabs are alright. The fish are alright. The bird's eggs are alright. Pandanus and breadfruit ought to be confined to Enyu island. Ekpap: What about arrowroot? It is one of the main diets of the Marshallese people. Would it be safe for them to grow it on Bikini Island? Ray: Can you comment? (to Paul Gudiksen) Gudiksen: We don't have the final answer to that because we haven't analyzed all the samples and so on. But at this stage of the game it looks like it will come into the same kind of realm as the pandanus. We don't have the final answer to it. Ray: The answer is about six months from now at the end of the year. We'll tell everything that we know about the food items. There will be much more extensive information than what we can say now. TI might tell you also that we've started an agricultural experiment station on Enjebi in Enewetak which has comparable soil conditions and we hope from that to be able to learn a lot more about the food chain considerations and be able to relate those to Bikini. Ané as time goes on we'll have better and better answers. So initially we may suggest restrictions on foods in a very conservative way and then as we learn more be able to release those. Dominik: In the middle part of Bikini -- I think the program called for planting quite a bit of breadfruit and pandanus. Have those produced yet? key: At this time we would suggest not using those foods for the Bikini people. We will know in six months which ones of those should definitely be ruled out or I think though we'd we'il have a much better basis for answering your question. like to'explore with the Bikini people the possibility of continuing to grow some of those things for research purposes so that we cah more quickly get answers to the long term questions. Dominik: (Unintelligible on the tape -- question was about asking the people to grow crops they would not be able to consume.) Ray: Some of them yes. We'd at least like to explore that and see if that is an acceptable thing for them. If it would be acceptable for them to continue to cultivate pandanus, breadfruit, bananas and other things in the parts of islands that we don't recommend they use for food production, it would be helpful in more guickly getting answers to the research questions. to us Gudiksen: I might add though that if it should happen -- if somebody eats some of the pandanus and so on -- that are presently growing there, although in very limited quantities, if someone should eat those, there's no immediate problem. There's actually no problem. Where you do run into a problem is where you have a daily intake of pandanus and breadfruit over the years. Then there is a buildup -7-